tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post836047813742772543..comments2024-02-18T00:11:11.490-08:00Comments on Heroines of Fantasy: Wednesday Review: Jirel of JoiryHeroines of Fantasyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07169664399606524540noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post-67856221310965386682014-01-22T10:16:00.992-08:002014-01-22T10:16:00.992-08:00Only two of Howard's stories have him as king ...Only two of Howard's stories have him as king (though one of those is an early-ish one as I recall). It's fair to say though that in both he isn't much in the role of ruler, avoiding assassination in one and being deposed and wandering in t'other.<br /><br />Offhand I can't think of any others so it's possible that Joiry is fairly rare in that respect.Heroines of Fantasyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07169664399606524540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post-27734541346004802342014-01-22T08:04:23.638-08:002014-01-22T08:04:23.638-08:00:) Thank you, B!:) Thank you, B!Terri-Lynnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468004163467894720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post-52179516514874036992014-01-21T20:11:25.621-08:002014-01-21T20:11:25.621-08:00Now I'm trying to think of other pulp heroes w...Now I'm trying to think of other pulp heroes who had title and position instead of being wandering rogues? Conan is eventually a ruler, though I don't know how many of Howard's original stories covered that era. Howard wrote a few King Kull stories, but I'm not coming up with anything else off the top of my head. <br /><br />Terri-Lynne, here's a filk about Jirel of Joiry, by Mercedes Lackey:<br />http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWIPzE3NAZ8<br />batgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15143310557906978680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post-31343679599997346752014-01-16T04:42:48.047-08:002014-01-16T04:42:48.047-08:00Very interesting review, Dave! Thanks so much for...Very interesting review, Dave! Thanks so much for bringing Jirel to our attention. Karin Rita Gastreichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13788750258292938903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post-84981987994738585152014-01-15T20:48:24.693-08:002014-01-15T20:48:24.693-08:00She'd have been much better as just a leader a...She'd have been much better as just a leader and not a warrior I think (hence i prefer to call her Joiry). I suspect she's portrayed as a warrior because Conan was (though Howard's stories required that Conan be a very capable fighter or the plots break. Joiry's fighting capabilities aren't really necessary to the stories and I think if she weren't skilled at arms most of the stories would actually be more exciting.David Hunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12107835555932153094noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post-81909657141961876222014-01-15T14:29:24.432-08:002014-01-15T14:29:24.432-08:00Oh, cool. Unschooled as I am in most literature be...Oh, cool. Unschooled as I am in most literature before my time, I've never heard of these stories. So many, many stories. <br /><br />Thanks!Terri-Lynnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11468004163467894720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3764159777348916628.post-88405969252635897032014-01-15T14:11:56.389-08:002014-01-15T14:11:56.389-08:00It's been decades since I read these, but some...It's been decades since I read these, but something about Jirel that may be worth noting is that she (in the first story) is a ruler and a war-leader, not so much a warrior. That may be as unusual for the pulps (where the standard was wandering rogues like early Conan, Fafhrd and the Grey Mouser) as her being a female warrior was. batgirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15143310557906978680noreply@blogger.com